Posts by Steve Josef

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Evolution Anyone???

by Steve Josef in

i read alot of posts and it seems that though you all (or most) have left the kh, you still believe in a "father" or a "jesus" that created everything.

since i too and one that left the kh, i have delved into science and have come the conculsion that god does not exist in a spirit form, but is life itself.

the "creator" of all things is evolution.

Steve Josef

I am sorry larc, I was unable to find The Good, The bad and Evolution. where did you say it was? ..... 'member I am a newbie!! lol

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Evolution Anyone???

by Steve Josef in

i read alot of posts and it seems that though you all (or most) have left the kh, you still believe in a "father" or a "jesus" that created everything.

since i too and one that left the kh, i have delved into science and have come the conculsion that god does not exist in a spirit form, but is life itself.

the "creator" of all things is evolution.

Is seems to me that evolution is the only possible means. Take for example the horse. Its ancestors include the Pliohippus, the Merychippus, Miohippus. These are very much LIKE horses of today, yet are no longer here. Natural selection said that they are not the strongest and they have evolved into modern day horses. Same with man. the Cro-Magnon took over the Neaderthals and we came from the Cro-Magnon . If Christianity is correct, then why does the bible not speak of such things? It says Adam and Eve.... But it makes no mention of Neaderthals. There are fossils of such things, why does the bible make no mention? Well Intropection, I beleive that everything that we are today evolved from the Cro-Magnon man. The way we think, our looks. you see, Cro-Magnon were able to obliterate the Neaderthals because of his brain. The neaderthals were powerhouses, and along comes Cro-magnon. This is were our brain power comes from. Our behaviour on the other hand, is something that has had an evolution all it self. many would argue that our beahaviour is hard wired and there is nothing that we can do. I don't believe that at all. We are more than capable to adapt, and that is why humans live on every part of the Earth. If evolution is a lie, as it was called, then why do many fossil records tell otherwise? We do know that Neaderthals and a few other humanoids existed, why doesn't the bible of any? O and the 6 thousand year thing the JWs say...... that is VERY wrong. lol, just thought I'd throw that in. :)

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I'm a Christian

by Erin4Christ in

i can't believe you people!

how can you brainwash so many people into believing this crap?!?

if you'd like to try explaining to me what you believe, please email me because i'm only gonna come back here to tell people the truth!.

Steve Josef

one should read the majority of posted messages before being mean and getting worked up.

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Evolution Anyone???

by Steve Josef in

i read alot of posts and it seems that though you all (or most) have left the kh, you still believe in a "father" or a "jesus" that created everything.

since i too and one that left the kh, i have delved into science and have come the conculsion that god does not exist in a spirit form, but is life itself.

the "creator" of all things is evolution.

Steve Josef

I read alot of posts and it seems that though you all (or most) have left the KH, you still believe in a "father" or a "jesus" that created everything. Since I too and one that left the KH, I have delved into Science and have come the conculsion that god does not exist in a spirit form, but is life itself. The "creator" of all things is Evolution. Darwin was right. I have accpeted that the bible, koran and other "holy scripts" are only written by men who are trying figure out what he/she cannot grasp. So the easiest answer is that a god or gods created everything and do everything for us. I do believe that religion (every religion) is man's question to try figure out what we are incapable of. Science has become my religion now. Not Sciencetology, but Science.

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Organised Religion

by aud8 in

if none of you believe in organised religion then who is the "faithful and discreet slave" mentioned in the bible?

Steve Josef

I am sorry, but you keep quoting from the bible. Did it ever occur to anyone that the bible is nothing more than a book of stories with some historical facts?

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Happily gone forever!

by Steve Josef in

i was raised as a jw.

i do believe that what they call a religion is in fact, child abuse and mere brainwashing.

i have since left, but rements of this cult still haunt me today.

Steve Josef

Well, I do have someone, but the whole distance from holidays and such has created some friction. I just want people to know that if they are JWs right now and they are reading this, that the religion they belong to is nothing more than a money making scheme. I am very happy to find this site.!!!! I think I may make many posts! :)

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HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

by waiting in

simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

" how mundane!.

fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

Steve Josef

I was born and raised in Morris County. I don't live in Dover anymore, but that is where I basically grew up.

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HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

by waiting in

simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

" how mundane!.

fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

Steve Josef

Hello, wow, I can't believe this site, I love it! First off, let me start by saying "Hello". I am from NJ USA. I was raised a JW until I left when I was 16. I am 23 now. I am very happy to meet all of you. Until today, I didn't know wbout most people's feelings toward JWs. I thought that I was the only one who had a terrible childhood because of these people. But I see I couldn't have been more wrong!

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fallen angels

by largo in

i was really bored when i found this forum.

i didn't think it that a community of witnesses chatted and carried disscussions on the internet.

how refreshing i though!

Steve Josef

It is horribly sad to see one so incredibly devoted to an empty religion. All of their promises have yet to be unfulfilled. Every year that was fortold as the end of this world, were wrong. Everything that was taught at our Sunday meetings, were wrong. All their preachings and doctrines that I was force-fed as a young child were wrong. I only hope that you see one day. The bible is a book of stories. That is all. The bible, the Koran, and others are all same. the watchtower, though, is not worth the paper it is printed on.

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fallen angels

by largo in

i was really bored when i found this forum.

i didn't think it that a community of witnesses chatted and carried disscussions on the internet.

how refreshing i though!

Steve Josef

What is amazing is that you have not seen from behind the veil that the JWs have put over your head. I saw past it. I am so very happy I found this website! Think for yourself, when you do, you will realize that you have been lied to the entire time. And please don't pray to your god for me. A god like yours who is full of vengence, I want nothing to do with.